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Jan 21, 2012; St. Petersburg, FL, USA; West punter Bryan Anger (19) of California congratulates West place kicker Greg Zuerlein (16) of Missouri Western State after he made a game-tying 35-yard field goal in the fourth quarter of the East-West Shrine Game at Tropicana Field. The West won 24-17. Mandatory Credit: Phil Sears-US PRESSWIRE

Pass Rushing DE and...A PUNTER!?


I was enjoying myself tonight. The Jags’ turn to pick in the 2nd round was right around the corner and I was anxiously awaiting to see who we were going to pick next and then BAM. We snag DE Andre Branch. Mr. Luke Sims did an awesome write up on this player. He made a fantastic point. We found a guy who will fit right into the 4-3 scheme Mel Tucker runs here in Jacksonville. I’m convinced this IS the player we’ve been waiting for, and I cannot wait to see the impact he makes across our defensive line. He’s rangy, has good length and has great closing speed. Mr. Andrew Luck, meet Mr. Andre Branch.

Mandatory Credit: Mitch Stringer-US PRESSWIRE

Then the 3rd round arrived. I must admit I was beyond excited about who we might add to the already impressive duo of rookies drafted. Could it be Jamell Fleming, the 7th ranked cornerback, 59th overall? Or maybe Brandon Brooks, the 4th ranked guard, 63rd overall. Maybe we could draft a safety like Brandon Taylor who I mentioned earlier. He’s the 3rd ranked strong safety, 105th overall.

Some would argue, “that’s a reach!” Maybe your arguement is based around need. So what do we do? I guess we get the highest rated punter in the draft. *SIGH*

Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-US PRESSWIRE

I respect Mr. Terry O’Brien’s article. I understand his point, and it’s a very good one. Field position is totally underrated in today’s game and can be one of the biggest deciding factors between a win and a loss. However, Anger would have been available in the 7th. Now I have heard comparisons to Shane Lechler…or maybe he’s more like Matt Dodge. We won’t know until the season starts. Everything aside, it’s a 3rd round pick and the players that we left on the board are no longer there. Even if they were, they won’t be in the 7th. This is EXACTLY what I mean when I refer to “reaching.”

Gene Smith nailed it with his first two picks. This one was a whiff though and only adds to the stigma this team has gained the last few years. If you’re fine with it, that’s cool. Live in denial. Truth is, that this was the dumbest pick we’ve made in a long, long time.

Think about it…we passed on the 7th ranked cornerback, the 4th ranked guard, and the 3rd ranked strong safety…for a punter who might have not even been drafted. Let’s hope we don’t draft a longsnapper in the 5th.

It’s up to us as fans and writers for this awesome team, city, and website to acknowledge these things.

-David R. Johns

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • tkopa

    You might be right.  The statistics say first round guys make it 50% of the time, second round guys make it 33% of the time and third round guys less than 1 in 4 chance. So Gene thought… “I have no 4th round guy so I am selecting the last best hope to improve the team”. He has much better odds of improving the Jaguars with Bryan Anger than with anyone else.  The best choice? No. The best odds of a good choice? Yes. Simly put, Bryan Anger can help win football games. Name me a guy chosen after him that has that high of a chance to help win games in 2012.  I can assure you, some third round guy after us will be a better choice. Right now, we can’t make that prediction on who it was. Bryan Anger will help and that was why I liked it. 

  • Davjay1983

    So basically what you’re saying is…Gene just wanted to draft someone who could make the team. Do I think this pick has the best odds of a good choice? No. I highly doubt the prospects in the 3rd round were so bad that a punter should be drafted over them. As far as prospects drafted after Anger that could help other teams win? The Bengals took Sanu who could be paired with A.J. Green. The Cards took Fleming after Anger and he could be a slot corner. Brandon Brooks, the guard from Miami (OH) will more than likely fill the holes left in the offseason. Michael Egnew is a great big target number 2 TE for Miami. Tyrone Crawford will be thrown into the D-Line rotation in Dallas immediately, even if it is just spot duty he will see the field. Sean Spence will see the field in Pittsburgh, their rookies always do no matter what round because they know how to scout. Tony Bergstrom is a hard working blue collar tackle who will be a swing tackle on gameday. Think a swing tackle isn’t important? Think again. Anyways all of these guys were taken after Anger. I wonder what the odds are for a 5th rounder. Probably even less than 1 in 4. So wouldn’t it have made more sense to get him in a LATER ROUND? That’s a decision you make around the 6th or 7th. Getting the top ranked punter in the 7th? That’s called value.

  • tkopa

    Dave,
    Let me say this first. Everything, every single thing you say is true.  third round for a punter is simply stupid if he was to be there in round 5. Even better if he was there in round 7.  Maybe he would have been.  Let me emphasize why this wa not a bad choice.  Here is a list of the top 25 third round guys selected in 2007, 2008 and 2009.  This represents about 25% of the number of third round guys and are the cream of the crop.  Do you see a lot of guys here that could have the same impact as Bryan Anger?:
     
    Brandon Mebane
    DT
    SEA
    2007
    Jamaal Charles
    RB
    KAN
    2008
    Marshall Yanda
    T
    BAL
    2007
    Mike Wallace
    WR
    PIT
    2009
    James Jones
    WR
    GNB
    2007
    Jermichael Finley
    TE
    GNB
    2008
    Kendall Langford
    DE
    MIA
    2008
    Charles Godfrey
    DB
    CAR
    2008
    Thomas DeCoud
    DB
    ATL
    2008
    Steve Slaton
    RB
    HOU
    2008
    Cliff Avril
    LB
    DET
    2008
    Jacoby Jones
    WR
    HOU
    2007
    Terrance Knighton
    DT
    JAX
    2009
    Louis Vasquez
    G
    SDG
    2009
    Trent Edwards
    QB
    BUF
    2007
    Kevin Smith
    RB
    DET
    2008
    Mario Manningham
    WR
    NYG
    2008
    Charles Johnson
    DE
    CAR
    2007
    Stewart Bradley
    LB
    PHI
    2007
    DeAndre Levy
    LB
    DET
    2009
    Mike Sims-Walker
    WR
    JAX
    2008
    Ray McDonald
    DE
    SFO
    2007
    Quincy Black
    LB
    TAM
    2007
    Ryan Harris
    T
    DEN
    2007
    Shonn Greene
    RB
    NYJ
    2009
     
     

  • tkopa

    Sorry, the paste option didn’t work as well as I had hoped.  The point being, Bryan Anger has a good chance to be valuable. The chances of a third round guy being valuable is really low. It does happen but not very often.

  • Davjay1983

    That’s quite a list! And no I do not because Anger has not played a down in the NFL. Do you think a punter could have the same impact as one of these guys? I don’t know how you’re presenting the list. Is this supposed to be a bad list if players? They all look (for the most part) very solid contributors. Some would even say a few players on here are explosive.

  • Davjay1983

    And for some reason everyone thinks we just drafted the greatest punter of all time. Just because he’s a punter doesn’t mean he’ll never shank a few. How in the world are the chances of him being a bad punter lower? Is it just because he’s a punter?

  • tkopa

    Dave,
     
    The list is the best of the best in those three years. The point being that half of them are not that great.  That means maybe there is a 12-15% chance of getting a difference maker.  I think Bryan Anger has greater than a 12-15% chance of making a difference.  A number of games are decided by 3 or less points. Field position dictates ability to score. Bryan Anger can affect field position. 
     
    I am not saying you are wrong. I am saying this choice has a good chance to help the team. A third round guy who helps you win is a good bet to take. That is all.

  • Davjay1983

    I understand your logic. But that kind of conservative logic will get you the #7 pick in the 2013 draft. I’d rather take a chance on the next mike wallace than have a sure footed punter. Looks like we’ve got big plans for the offense. THAT is all.

  • Davjay1983

    The more I think about it the more I know this was a good pick. This team punts a lot. If one of these 3rd round guys picked after Anger explodes onto the scene, you BETTER not post a “we should have drafted ______” I will call you out on it.

  • tkopa

     @Davjay1983
     Yep. Understood.

  • tkopa

     @Davjay1983
     Promise. And if he sucks, feel free to post an I told you so

  • Davjay1983

    Terry, your a good man. Thank you for putting up with me. I know I seem overly aggressive and irrational at times, but I swear it’s because I love this team. How do you feel about the Brandon Marshall and the FSU CB pick? Overall, I feel this was a good draft for us. I think they are ALL in a good position to contribute right away. I like your take on football. Thank you for being man enough t say what you really think and not back tracking.

  • Davjay1983

    You’re a good man…sheesh can’t believe I just did that….You’re a good man, Charlie Brown!

  • tkopa

     @Davjay1983
     Dave, you already know how I feel, they have very little chance of making an impact. :)  Special team guys being given a chance. But that FSU Punter, now he was a real steal in the fifth round….. I guess Gene missed that one!  :) (that means I am joking)

  • tkopa

     @Davjay1983
     I love the debate. Thanks

  • Davjay1983

    You’re right. We’ll be lucky if one sticks, but maybe they could be groomed into something on down the road. I’m somewhat skeptical of Marshall, but I like Harris and what I’ve seen from Pendelton. With these late round guys it’s all about development. At least we got Blackmon. I think Branch will make an immediate impact, and Anger really is a good punter. So in all actuality we have 3 new starters on offense, defense, and special teams. Even though I don’t agree with the pick, it is what it is. Might as well accept it! Debate is what drives these sites. No one will read if we agree on everything all the time.